The Achaemenians were likely Elamites, so it is intellectually honest to call Iranians Elamo-Aryans. But racism has been indoctrinated so much into certain Iranians that they cannot bear the thought of being associated with dark-skinned curly-haired Elamites.

2014年10月10日 · Please pay attention to the dates on these threads. We discourage the resurrection of threads that have been dead for more than two years. Anyone who wants to talk about Elamites is free to start a new thread.

2015年10月2日 · "Amma" is also "mother" in Elamite, and the hypothesized Proto-Elamo-Dravidian (the existence of an Elamo-Dravidian family of languages is controversial, but the remarkable similarity in vocabulary between Dravidian languages and several ancient Near Eastern languages is a fact):

2021年1月5日 · The Elamites were very important into the Achaemenid period (and may have still existed as a nation after the Arab conquest). They had similar population to the more famous cultures west of the Tigris, they just did not leave the same sexy literature (records of grain and short royal inscriptions are not as sexy as Enuma Elish or Codex Hammurabi).

2020年11月15日 · Was the ancient Elamites part of a distinct within itself sexually reproducing group that also overlaps with a similarly within itself sexually reproducing group of "Iranians", by why of Lurs, another group then assumed to be part of this increasingly wide assumed sexually reproducing super-group.

2015年10月2日 · Sanskrit matruh, Persian madar, Latin mater, and English mother all obviously belong in one group, while Sumerian amma, Akkadian ummu, Aramaic immah, Hebrew ima, and Arabic umm belong to another. I am saying that the Dravidian word amma is much closer to the second group (West Asian) than the...

2015年1月11日 · Elamites had decimal system like Semites & Egyptians. Elamite men were bearded like Semites & Akkadians. Baker says Kish/Ur, Sialk and Mohenjodaro all had similar Combe-Capelid and Mediterranid mix populations.

2020年11月15日 · Some people say that they are actually Elamites or related to the Elamites themselves. Others take it very far by saying that Sumerians are actually Dravidians since the Sumerians are related to the Elamites themselves. But the closest that people got is that ancient Sumerians are related to the modern Marsh Arabs.

2015年10月2日 · Dravidian "amma" is still closer to Sumerian or Elamite "amma" (since they are basically the same word) than it is to "mama" or "mammi". We can certainly establish linguistic connections using words for "mother", and linguists have already done so. Sanskrit matruh, Persian madar, Latin mater...

2015年10月2日 · But why talk specifically about Telugu here? Telugu evolved later and to complicate matters modern telugu literature evolved even later. If we are talking about Sumerian Dravidian connection, it has to be between Sumerian and Proto-Drav. Drona Bharadwaja is wrong about the Telugu usage of uru...