2018年11月11日 · Gallipoli turned out pretty good based on what one could expect. i.e. the dice fell in the British favor. Simply put, Gallipoli was a hastily put together operation with inadequate forces where UK logistics were there worse attacking against the Ottomans where their troop strength and logistics were best on good defensive terrain.

2021年2月12日 · The basic concept of the Gallipoli Campaign was sound and in theory would have worked, but the whole campaign was botched apart from the final withdrawal. I think the root cause is that both the British and French held the Turks in contempt (sick man of Europe or just another bunch of grubby natives) and thought they'd run at the first shot so ...

2017年1月22日 · Nonsense. The OTL Gallipoli Campaign had 489,000 men. They would be used, once the breakout was made, as opposed to rotting on the beach. This thread is about making the Gallipoli Campaign better not handwaving millions of men into swamping the Turks to defeat. Does the mutiny comment refer to the Singapore Mutiny?

2017年1月22日 · Gallipoli was the largest modern opposed amphibious assault ever and done a long way from logistic bases - Egypt and Malta were depots nothing more. Having said that the sheer ineptitude of the planning and execution of this campaign was beyond excusing.

2021年4月7日 · Was the Gallipoli Campaign really that unwinnable? I'm a bit of a sucker for WWI PoD's, and one of my favourites is that of a successful pushing of the dardanelles, with the british securing Istanbul with its massive navy, possibly knocking out the Ottomans from the war, and creating a more secure supply line to Russia through the black sea...

2017年1月21日 · one thing that has always bugged me whenever i look at a map of the area why launch against Cape Helles and Sedd El Bahr - they are literally the absolute furthest toe on the peninsula. Why not pick somewhere else (if you have to land on the peninsular) or choose somewhere like the coastline...

2005年8月17日 · The Gallipoli Campaign was the brain child of Winston Churchill, First Lord of the Admiralty. Although it did not go exactly as planned, the Gallipoli Campaign was always intended to relieve German pressure, from the other fronts in France, Belgium & Russia, by forcing German forces to spread ever further across Europe.

2017年1月22日 · The biggest problem with the Gallipoli campaign was British pride. Churchill sold the naval plan on the basis that it would use older ships of limited value and that if it didn't work they could easily withdraw therefore risking little with the potential of humiliating the Ottomans by bombarding their capital and possibly knocking them out of ...

2018年11月11日 · The problem was that all this analytical effort, firmly grounded in the Gallipoli experience, rested on some highly suspect assumptions. Thanks to Gallipoli, British planners assumed future amphibious assaults would have to be smaller and simpler, possess the element of surprise, and take place only after dark or at dawn.

2021年2月12日 · Potentially they could be ready to undertake the campaign in late 1914, perhaps before the Ottomans were able to reinforce the area. My understanding of the Gallipoli campaign is as an exercise in Mastery by the British in being able to bugger-up everything that could possibly be buggered when comes to organising and executing a serious ...